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October 13, 2005


peter caputa

This is a great post, Bob. You'll have to point out those XXX event directories to me. :)

I do think users (event attendees) will rise to the challenge. We are seeing it already. For a specific event that we marketed, attendees could grab a banner ad (with their unique code in the url) and paste it anywhere on the web. We served 55,000 impressions via myspace.com alone for this music festival. Over 100 people sent invitations to 4,000 people. The people want to be engaged. We just need to build the systems and ACHIEVE the INTEROPABILITY, so that it is easier for them.

Robert Douglass

Drupal has a module that not only allows events to be published automatically on Upcoming.org, but Drupal sites can use the same module to share events with each other.


robb thurston

Dear Bob Wyman;
I want to exit from PUBSUB SIDEBAR FOR FIIREFOX. I have firefox and it exists as a sidebar, and i want to remove it.
I have tried several times to contact PubSub and the messages get returned. Please do me a favor, please, please!:
Thanks for minding this business, and I appreciate your help. If i could have contacted Pubsub, maybe I would have stayed, but I could not get through.
Robb Thurston

Benoit Brookens

Great Post Bob!

Nancy Tubbs

Hey, now, I run one of those "event posting" sites, created long before structured blogging and microformats existed. Since when are you against free enterprise, and the use of technology to solve a problem?

Look, I think SB is great, even though in your world it would destroy the service I created, or at least impact it significantly. SB increases choice for users. But to say that currently the user (ie, event poster) doesn't have control, and with SB s/he will, seems a stretch.

The vast majority of (at least event) listings include a link to web content that the event organizer has created. Folks write listings on their blogs and sites every day. What SB does is make it easier for aggregator sites to find and understand that data.

But aggregators control how those listings are found: ranking, visibility of content, etc. Perhaps they'll display the listing information and conveniently forget the link to the original. Perhaps they won't feel like including my Knitting Meetup in Tulsa. Perhaps they'll charge for being in the first 50 listings. And what if the venue changes or the event is cancelled - will they stay updated?

Don't aggregators become new walled gardens? Is the ultimate location of the listing anywhere near as important as where the pointers to it are?

Craigslist, your favorite walled garden example, is about as open as possible. It's almost entirely free to use, listings are designed by the user, and they can be changed or deleted at any time (handy once you've sold your used couch and don't want any more calls). Listings are displayed chronologically, not determined by the website. The user has an enormous amount of control.

Again, I like Structured Blogging and microformats, but to say they are putting all the power into the hands of the users seems like spin.

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